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4K Monitor Requirements and Usage

Written on August 6, 2013 by Matt Bach


4k display monitorFor a number of years now, 1080p (1920x1080) displays have been the norm for both televisions and computers. And while 4k displays may not replace 1080p as the standard for some time, they have recently been gaining in popularity. These displays have roughly four times the number of pixels as a standard 1080p display which results in a huge improvement in picture quality. But since the technology is still relatively new there are a lot of questions and misunderstandings about this new technology. 

Since we have been receiving more and more questions about 4k displays, we decided it was finally time to get our hands on one and perform our own testing. The monitor we will be using for this is the ASUS PQ321Q 31.5 inch UHD Monitor which runs at 3840x2160 with either a 30Hz or 60Hz refresh rate depending on how it is connected to the computer. This monitor offers a range of connectivity options including DisplayPort in both SST and MST mode, HDMI, and dual HDMI. Unlike most 1080p monitors, the type of connectivity you use is very important as it will determine how you setup the display and what refresh rate the display will be able to run.

Currently both HDMI and DisplayPort is limited to 30Hz per 4k display so 60Hz monitors like the ASUS PQ321Q have to be a bit creative to get around this limitation. The way that this monitor and others like achieve 60Hz refresh rates is through the use of either DisplayPort in MST (multi stream transport) mode or by using dual HDMI cables to actually run two sub-4k resolution displays side by side on the one monitor. So you are essentially splitting the monitor in half right down the middle with the left side as one display, and the right side as a second display. By doing this, both displays are actually running at 1920x2160 which can operate at 60Hz with current DisplayPort and HDMI specifications.

4k screenshot
At 4k Resolutions, you can easily fit our website side-by-side three times! Note that this image has not had the DPI adjusted so things like the Start Button and Taskbar icons are at their default size.
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Test Setup

To perform our testing, we used the following base hardware:

Testing Hardware  
Motherboard ASUS Sabertooth Z87
CPU Intel Core i7 4770K 3.5GHz
RAM 4x Kingston HyperX DDR3-1600 4GB Low Voltage
Hard Drive Samsung 840 Pro 128GB SSD
PSU Silverstone ST1500 1500W Power Supply
OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit w/ SP1
Intel Driver
AMD Driver 13.4
NVIDIA DisplayPort Driver Beta 326.41
NVIDIA HDMI Driver 320.49

Note that while we were able to use the latest official video driver from Intel and AMD, we had to use a Beta driver from NVIDIA in order to get DisplayPort in MST mode to function correctly. This is due to the fact that unlike Intel and AMD, NVIDIA currently does not have a way to combine two displays into a single seamless display like Intel Collage mode or AMD Eyefinity. There is NVIDIA Surround, but that currently only works with three monitors, not two. This Beta driver gets around this issue by simply detecting when you are using DisplayPort in MST mode and automatically creates a single virtual display instead of two separate displays. 

Instead of going over how we setup the monitor for AMD and NVIDIA cards, we are instead simply going to direct you to the Setup Process portion of PC Perspective's recent Asus PQ321Q review article. We used this article as a basis for much of our process so we want to be sure to give credit where credit is due.

The one thing we are testing that PC Perspective did not touch on is setting up a 4K monitor with Intel integrated graphics. Luckily, this is very similar to how you setup a 4K monitor with an AMD card with the only difference being that you enable Intel Collage mode in the Intel Graphics Control Panel rather than creating a Eyefinity Display Group in the AMD Catalyst Control Center. The process is very easy; simply open the Intel Graphics Control Panel, navigate to the Display page, and change the display type to Collage.

Since the primary goal of this article is to determine what cards can be used with a 4K display, we used a variety of NVIDIA and AMD cards as well as the integrated Intel HD 4600 graphics that is found on the Intel Core i7-4770K CPU. Most of the cards officially support 4K monitors, but one thing we have learned from experience is that sometimes even if something is officially supported, it is not really in a useable form.

Maximum Resolution Digital Display DVI HDMI DisplayPort
Intel HD 4600 (i7-4770K) 1GB shared - - 3840x2160 3840x2160
NVIDIA GT 640 2GB 4096x2160 2560x1600 - N/A
NVIDIA GTX 650 1GB 4096x2160 - - N/A
NVIDIA GTX 660 2GB 4096x2160 - - -
NVIDIA GTX 660 Ti 2GB 2560x1600 - - -
NVIDIA GTX 670 2GB 4096x2160 - - -
NVIDIA GTX 770 2GB 4096x2160 - - -
NVIDIA GTX Titan 6GB 4096x2160 - - -
AMD Radeon HD 7750 1GB - 2560x1600 4096x2160 4096x2160
AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB - 2560x1600 4096x2160 4096x2160

The chart above shows the official maximum resolutions that Intel, AMD, and NVIDIA list for these cards. It gets confusing because NVIDIA just lists the maximum resolution which, based on current HDMI and DisplayPort specifications, should apply to both HDMI and DisplayPort. AMD on the other hand lists each output individually which in our opinion is the much better way to do things. Intel is similar to AMD as they list both the HDMI and DisplayPort maximum resolution, although they do not list DVI.

One very important thing to note is the red spec for the GTX 660 Ti which lists 2560x1600 as the maximum Digital Display resolution. This is strange since every other card we are testing can officially run at 4096x2160. We've long suspected that this is simply a mistake on NVIDIA's part, but until now we have not been able to test it. So in addition to everything else, this is a good chance for us to finally discover if this specification is actually correct or not.

Update 8/28/2013: NVIDIA has finally updated the GTX 660 Ti to have the correct maximum digital resolution of 4096x2160. So in addition to our testing showing that the GTX 660 Ti can do 4k resolutions, it is now officially supported by NVIDIA as well. 

4k Monitor Connectivity Options

The first thing we want to do is simply see which video cards work with each of the different connectivity options for this monitor. For this test we are simply checking to see if we can get the full 3840x2160 resolution with either a 30Hz or 60Hz refresh rate depending on the official limitation of the connection type. 


DisplayPort SST
  DisplayPort MST
  HDMI Single
  HDMI Dual
Intel HD 4600 (i7-4770K) 1GB shared      
NVIDIA GT 640 2GB      
NVIDIA GTX 650 1GB      
NVIDIA GTX 660 2GB      
NVIDIA GTX 660 Ti 2GB      
NVIDIA GTX 670 2GB      
NVIDIA GTX 770 2GB      
NVIDIA GTX Titan 6GB      
AMD Radeon HD 7750 1GB      
AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB      

Starting with the DisplayPort in SST (single stream transport) and MST (multi stream transport) mode, the only cards that did not work at all were the NVIDIA GT 640 and the NVIDIA GTX 650 by the simple fact that they do not actually have a DisplayPort connector. The only other issue we had with DisplayPort was when we tried to use Intel Collage mode on the Intel HD 4600 graphics that is integrated onto the Intel Core i7-4770K. We were able to get the full resolution and refresh rate with DisplayPort in MST mode, but the display was extremely choppy to the point of un-usability. While we were using it, it felt like the refresh rate was closer to 20Hz rather than 60Hz. The strange thing is that this choppiness doesn't occur until you enabled Collage mode, so as long as you are fine with using the monitor as two virtual displays side by side rather than a single large display, it actually works great. Because of this fact, this issue is very likely driver based and as such should be fixed in a future driver update. Until then, however, we would only recommend using the Intel integrated graphics for 4k displays running at 30Hz.

The only other major issue we had was with dual HDMI. Current HDMI specifications only allows for 30Hz refresh rates at 4k resolutions, so this monitor gives the option to use use two HDMI cables working together to achieve 60Hz. This is actually very similar to DisplayPort in MST mode but is a bit funky since, unlike DisplayPort, HDMI was never intended to be used in this manner. In fact, none of the cards we tested even had dual HDMI ports so we had to try a variety of DVI to HDMI adapters and DisplayPort to HDMI adapters. Even with all the adapters we tried, we found no cards that worked properly. The AMD cards were the closest in working when we used a passive DVI to HDMI adapter, but even then we had issues. With this adapter we could get the Catalyst Control Center to report that it was running at 3840x2160 with a 60Hz refresh rate, but we were getting strange tearing when we would drag a windows across the middle of the screen.

This issue ended up being caused by the DVI to HDMI adapter. Apparently these types of adapters can only run at 60Hz with a resolution of 1600x1200 or below. Since the adapter was actually running at 1920x2160 it was actually limited to 30Hz even though the Catalyst Control Center says that it is running at 60Hz. So while the left half of the screen (with the native HDMI) was running at 60Hz, the right half of the screen (with the DVI to HDMI adapter) was actually running at 30Hz. Due this issue, we highly recommend using DisplayPort over dual HDMI in order to achieve 4k resolutions at 60Hz whenever possible.

4k General Usage Performance

Most reviews and articles about 4k displays tend to focus on gaming over anything else. While this is important, most of the time a display is used for much lighter tasks like watching movies or browsing the web. We often see high end video cards being recommended for use with 4k displays regardless of the usage of the system, so we wanted to find out if a high end card is really necessary when you are only doing light to medium duty tasks. 

To find out, we used our lowest end AMD and NVIDIA video cards that could support 4k resolutions at 60Hz and compared them to the highest end AMD and NVIDIA video cards. We did three different tasks while logging the GPU, CPU and RAM loads to make sure that we were never close to maxing out any aspect of the system. In addition, we also simply paid close attention to see if we could subjectively "feel" any difference when usingthe lower-end cards.

For this testing, we first watched a slideshow of 4k images using the Windows Photo Viewer. These images were found simply by doing a Google Images search with the resolution of the images limited to 3840x2160. Our next test was to watch a 4k movie. To do this, we downloaded the Life in the Garden video from YouTube. We opted to download the video rather than playing it directly from YouTube to eliminate our internet connection from the mix. Finally, we simply browsed the web with Google Chrome for 15 minutes and visited a wide variety of web sites. To do this semi consistently, we first opened every post from the first two pages of the default Reddit front page with each post opening into a new tab that we never closed. This allowed us to view a wide range of different subjects from images, cat GIFs, videos, and articles while utilizing more tabs than most users usually do. After that, we browsed our own Puget Systems website for approximately 10 minutes doing things like configuring a new system, checking out part information pages and opening hardware articles. We are very familiar with how our own website performs so any slight hesitations or lag should be readily apparent.


 4k Slideshow 4K Movie Intensive Web Browsing
AMD Radeon HD 7750 1GB
AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB

Subjectively, we noticed no performance difference with any of the cards during any of our testing. The GPU load never got above 50% with any of the video cards, although the higher end cards understandably performed the same functions at a lower load percentage than the lower end cards. The only potential issue we found was during the 4k web browsing tests where our logging showed the video cards using as much as 1260MB of video memory. To put this into perspective, this is roughly 3 times as much video memory that would have been used if we performed the same tasks on a 1080p monitor.

Since the AMD Radeon HD 7750 only has 1024MB of onboard RAM, this is a potential problem as it is not able to store as much data in it's RAM as it ideally would like to. This didn't result in any noticeable performance difference, but if you want to be sure you are having the best possible experience we would recommend using a video card that has at least 1.5GB of video memory for each 4k display you will be using for these types of tasks.

4k Gaming Performance

There are plenty of benchmarks already available for a variety of games running at 4k resolutions, so we wanted to approach the question of gaming at 4k resolutions a bit differently. Instead of benchmarking a ton of games and video cards, we are instead going to compare how gaming on a 4k display compares to a standard 1920x1080 display. To see how much more demanding running a game at 4k resolutions is, we are going to run three benchmarks on the NVIDIA GTX Titan and the AMD Radeon HD 7970. If you would like to see benchmarks for more games, we recommend checking out the Tom's Hardware article Gaming At 3840x2160.

The settings for each benchmark was determined by adjusting them until the average FPS was about 30FPS when using the NVIDIA GTX Titan running at 3840x2160 at 60Hz. These settings ended up being:

Benchmark Settings DiRT Showdown Hitman: Absolution Unigine Heaven 4.0
Resolution 1 1920x1080
Resolution 2 3840x2160
Quality Preset Ultra Medium Medium
MSAA 8x 4x 0x
Tesselation - - Moderate

4k display NVIDIA GTX Titan Gaming Benchmark

Starting with the NVIDIA GTX Titan, we saw a huge drop in performance just by upping the resolution to 3840x2160. Unigine Heaven had the biggest drop in performance going from 120 FPS to just 31.8 FPS which is roughly a 74% drop in performance! DiRT Showdown and Hitman: Absolution also showed significant drops in performance, although they were both closer to a 60% drop in performance.

4k display AMD Radeon HD 7970 Gaming Benchmark

Our benchmarks with the AMD Radeon HD 7970 at first glance are very similar to the NVIDIA GTX Titan benchmarks. In fact, the percentage drop in performance for Unigine Heaven is almost identical at 74%. However, with Hitman: Absolution we saw something different as it showed a 67% drop in performance rather than the 55% drop we saw with the NVIDIA GTX Titan. The reason for this lies in the fact that along with the higher demand on the GPU itself, running a game at 4k resolutions also requires much more video memory. In the case of Hitman: Absolution, the game actually wanted to use a bit more video memory than the AMD Radeon HD 7970 has available. The difference was only a little bit so the performance hit wasn't as bad as it could have been, but it was impacted enough to show up in our results.

What our testing shows is that simply upgrading to a 4k display should lower your performance in games by around 60% assuming you have enough video memory. So if you are running a game at 60FPS on a 1920x1080 display right now and just increase the resolution to 3840x2160 with otherwise the exact same settings, you should expect the FPS to drop to around 24 FPS. If you do not have enough video memory available, this number can easily drop even lower.

If you are curious about how much video RAM was used in each benchmark run, simply click on the thumbnails below.

4k display NVIDIA GTX Titan video RAM memory usage 4k display AMD Radeon HD 7970 video RAM memory usage
Video RAM Usage
AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB
Video RAM Usage

Edit 8/8/2013 - We've had some questions about the performance difference between a monitor running at 30Hz and one running at 60Hz. Refresh rate should not affect benchmarking performance, but we re-ran some of our benchmarks with the monitor connected via DisplayPort in SST mode (30Hz refresh rate) just to confirm. Our testing showed that while games certainly look better at 60Hz, as far as benchmarking goes the refresh rate does not affect the FPS performance.

AMD vs. NVIDIA 4K Display Quality

One strange report we've heard many times since the advent of 4k displays is that AMD video cards output clearer text than NVIDIA cards. This has always been a source of confusion for us since the quality of text and other non-3d graphics is generally not affected by what video card you use but rather the monitor. To see if we could validate these reports, we took high resolution pictures (not just screenshots) of the screen running at full 4k resolution using DisplayPort in MST mode. For this test we used four video cards: AMD Radeon HD 7750, AMD Radeon HD 7970, NVIDIA GTX 660 and NVIDIA GTX Titan.

AMD Radeon HD 7750 AMD Radeon HD 7970
Comparison of image quality between AMD and NVIDIA video cards

This is a very close up shot of one of the navigation tabs for our Serenity systems and includes both text and a small graphic. As you can see, there is no difference in the text or graphic quality between AMD and NVIDIA cards.

We also performed this test with the DPI set to 140 pixels per inch (which is what this monitor is) and while everything gets bigger as it should, the quality between AMD and NVIDIA cards is still identical. However, one major discovery we made is that if you have an AMD video card and change the DPI settings, the driver automatically increases the zoom level for internet browsers like IE, Chrome, and Firefox. In our case, when we set the DPI to 146% (140 pixels per inch), IE was automatically set to 145% zoom and Chrome was automatically set to 150% zoom. So very likely the reports of clearer text with AMD cards is simply the result of internet browsers automatically having the zoom level increased which makes text and images on webpages much larger and easier to read.

DPI set to 146% (140 PPI) Zoom in web browsers automatically gets set when using an AMD video card

Other Considerations

4k displays are still relatively new, and as such there are a number of small and not so small bugs. Many of these issues we have already covered such as the dual HDMI issues and the problems we had running at 60Hz with the Intel HD 4600 graphics. In addition to those issues, we had a few others that came up in our testing that did not quite fit in any section.
  1. When using DisplayPort in MST mode, NVIDIA cards fail to POST about 50% of the time. When this happens, you have to hit the reboot button on the computer (power off then back on does not work) in order to POST successfully. PC Perspective also had this issue and reported it as an issue with the STMicro firmware on ASUS motherboards. This should be fixed in a firmware update in the near future.
  2. NVIDIA and Intel displays in MST mode cannot see the BIOS or POST screens on our ASUS Sabertooth Z87 motherboard. DisplayPort in SST mode and single HDMI, however, work fine. This issue does not happen with AMD video cards.
  3. Also related to DisplayPort in MST mode, before the NVIDIA driver is installed you only get a black screen when the OS boots. You have to switch to SST mode, install the NVIDIA driver, then switch back to MST mode.
  4. Finally, we initially had some problems when testing HDMI that ended up being due to the cable not being HDMI 1.4a compliant. So unlike SATA cables, make sure your cables are compliant with the latest specification.


ASUS PQ321Q 4k monitorOverall, we are very impressed with the picture quality on the ASUS PQ321Q. It is still too early to tell when or if 4k displays will replace 1080p displays, but if you need a high quality display and have a large enough budget, 4k displays are certainly the way to go. But like any new technology, there are a number of things that anyone considering a 4k display should take into consideration.

First, current driver and firmware revisions make AMD video cards a much, much more attractive choice over either Intel integrated or NVIDIA graphics if you want to use a 4k display with a 60Hz refresh rate. The problems we saw with both Intel and NVIDIA should be fixed soon, but at the time of this article AMD is simply more problem-free and easier to setup. On the other hand, if you are only using a 30Hz 4k display, none of the issues we saw will even be a factor. So in that case you should simply go with the video card that best matches your needs.

Second, if you are tying to decide whether or not a more expensive 60Hz 4k display is worth it over a 30Hz display, consider what you will be using it for. If it is primarily for watching 4k movies, a 30Hz display is likely just fine as most 4k movies are only played at 24FPS. For almost anything else, however, the 30Hz refresh rate is going to be very noticeable. One tool we've found to be useful for comparing refresh rates is the Frames Per Second website. Simply set the baseballs' FPS to 60 and 30 FPS, turn off motion blur, and play around with the velocity to see how much choppier a 30HZ display is compared to a 60Hz display.

Next, whenever possible we recommend using DisplayPort in MST mode to connect a 60Hz 4k display to your computer. If your display gives you the option to use dual HDMI, we strongly suggest not doing so. The fact that we couldn't get dual HDMI to work correctly on any of our test cards clearly shows how reliable that type of connection is right now.

Finally, if you are not gaming plan on needing at least 1.5GB of video memory for each 4k display you will be running unless your system is solely used for light tasks such as showing pictures or playing movies. In that case, 1GB of video memory per display should be more than sufficient. If you are gaming, the amount of video memory you need per display is going to depend heavily on the game but will almost certainly be at least 2GB. To be safe we recommend having at least 4GB of video memory per display, but if you play games like Skyrim with lots of mods you may find that you need as much as 6GB of video memory.

In conclusion, we absolutely loved using a 4k display and will be petitioning our company President to immediately replace all of the monitors in our office with 4k displays. Unfortunately, given that the ASUS PQ321Q currently goes for about $3500, that proposal is not very likely to be approved. But if a 4k display is within your budget, we highly recommend considering one the next time you are in the market for a new monitor.

Tags: 4k, display, monitor, 3840x2160, high resolution, PQ321Q

Great article! Good heavens...1.5GB video memory for EACH 4K display attached. How about shared DDR3 resources when using the Intel HD4600 iGP? I might have missed it but the systems I've seen running 4K had 8GB minimum. Others had 16GB just to be safe.

Posted on 2013-08-07 23:39:38

The problem with shared video memory on integrated graphics is that most motherboards will max out at around 1GB. This is still fine for movies and normal web browsing, but if you like using tons of tabs while browsing the web, you should probably go with a discrete video card with more video memory.

As for the amount of system RAM that is used, we did see a bit higher RAM usage with the 4k display over a 1080p display, but the increase wasn't anywhere near as much as we saw with the video memory. In most of our testing, only about 300MB more system RAM was used when doing the general usage tasks. The most intense of the three general tasks (web browsing) ended up using about 4GB of RAM, so 8GB total of system RAM would be more than enough for those types of tasks. Gaming, on the other hand, can often utilize a lot more RAM. So if you are thinking of doing some medium to heavy gaming, 16GB is really what I would recommend.

Posted on 2013-08-07 23:53:29

Shared memory is only for basic tasks. You need GRAPHICS CARDS running PCI Express 3.0 style and be a minimum of the NVidia GTX 670, preferably two in SLI mode like I have in HDMI connection!

Posted on 2013-08-17 00:54:45

I have an ASUS system (complete ASUS with a reduced hardware Rampage II board). I have the same issue with the POST not completing on restart. Power off and on sometimes doesn't work either. However I did find out what to do to make it work every time. Power down the system, pull the power cord and press the power button. This discharges everything (and USB devices also get reset by losing USB power) and the system comes up every time I use this sequence. Might try this if you're having a similar issue.

Posted on 2013-08-16 03:35:12

I don't really consider less than 60fps to be acceptable, so I guess I won't be going the route of 4k for another couple video card generations.

Posted on 2013-08-16 09:07:34

Shame on you for still using Windows 7! Windows 8 has replaced it as being more up to date and secure. I bought the display and use it just fine with the GTX 670 video card (two of them in SLI mode)

Posted on 2013-08-17 00:53:31

Windows 8 is certainly newer, but we still see an overwhelming demand for Windows 7 over WIndows 8 which is why we continue to use it for articles like this. If you're curious about the WIndows 7 versus Windows 8 demand we see, we have numerous blog posts on the subject:
I also did a quick sales comparison to get current numbers, and since Windows 8 was released Windows 7 averages about 70% of our sales while Windows 8 only averages about 13% http://images.pugetsystems....

Posted on 2013-08-19 18:51:32

There is no substitute for ALWAYS using the most current version of Windows. There are to be no excuses. I do not care what people say or think. The facts are the facts. Windows 7 is already outdated. There is soon to be Windows 8.1 and Internet Explorer 11. It is not about demand or the appearance. MILLIONS use and love Windows 8, so get with the program people!. It is about reality, security, progress and keeping things current. Anyone not using the most current version is out of the loop, especially with progress, security and features, PERIOD. FACTS ARE FACTS. Business should understand that and not allow some out of touch customers to dictate anything. That is not the point. Microsoft is pushing this and so should everyone else. I will not add to this any further.

Posted on 2013-08-20 06:03:28

I beg to disagree (though I understand you do not plan to reply). Businesses should cater to what their customers want, not what any other entity attempts to force on them. If we sold only Windows 8, we would not get some of the sales that we do. Likewise, if we only sold Intel, or only AMD, or whatever - people want choices, and we provide that so far as we can within the context of high quality and great service. Does that mean there are some products we choose not to sell? Sure! But Windows 7 is not one of them :)

I have used Windows 8, and it is great on a tablet. It is less optimal on a desktop / laptop, and there on my personal machines I still choose to run Windows 7. I run Windows 8 on my workstation so that I can talk about it to customers, though - and depending on my customers needs, I will advise them either way as I think they would be best served. In the end, the choice is theirs though... and they overwhelmingly still choose Windows 7.

Posted on 2013-08-20 06:28:32

Microsoft sold MILLIONS of copies of Windows 8, and that number still goes up. So you can "beg to differ". That is still wrong. Anyone smart and understanding of this knows that with each new version of Windows comes a stronger, better and more secure version of Windows, and any of the so-called negatives is factually due to ignorance, unwillingness to adapt to progress, staying current and change. If everything was about your sales, we would stay more behind than we already are. Microsoft has taught this, and it has been proven. I also know Windows 8 sells a lot of pre-designed stuff including phones, and laptops and computer with the operating system installed. I also build all my computers, and I always use the most current version of Windows, Internet Explorer and the best internet security software available and tested, which is from Emsisoft. Companies need to quit selling out. Choice is not the point to technology and having choice causes issues and uncommonness. This is why Apple, Linux and Google is dead in the water and I will never use any of their products, not even the search engines like Firefox or Google Chrome. This is a pointless argument, because there is no argument. I know full well what I am talking about and I make use of it, and so do millions of others. You want people to keep having issues, that's fine. but I don't.

Posted on 2013-08-20 07:06:50


Posted on 2013-09-02 14:59:39

Im a gamer and for me using windows 8 just seems stupid yes there maybe a slight fps advantage but windows 7 is a good solid platform and there are problems with windows 8 when you start to overclock your cpu which throws all benchmarks out. If you really think that windows gets better in every new os then think back to windows millennium and windows vista,vista was awful to use.

Posted on 2013-09-03 09:30:07

this guy is something else, lol. What surprises me the most is not
just his dedication to windows 8, but also to IE. What a terrible

I am a progammer/gamer and like to keep up to date with all the new stuff. I have a windows 8 workstation but at home I still opt to use Windows 7. Microsoft really messed up with Windows 8, IMHO. IF we were all to have a windows tablet, smart phone, table, etc ... then having a windows 8 desktop makes a lot of sense. How many people actually have Windows phones though? Very few. But the point that gets me the most? Having to google simple functions in windows 8. EG) How to close a program!!!! If someone like me has to look up how to do simple things in Windows 8, people like my parents are screwed on the platform.

Posted on 2013-09-30 17:00:36

either a troll or a microsoft employee -_-

Posted on 2013-10-10 04:27:05
king david

Got my win 8 a year ago for $14, last month revert back to win 8, let others do the ironing. A troll :=#

Posted on 2013-11-01 21:53:10
nigra truo

Yeah, people that still think that IE is hot are in the wrong century and massively misguided *ROFL* ;-)

Posted on 2014-04-25 10:10:21

as software and hardware engineer, il like to say you are just wrong in all levels, windows 8 is tablet focus OS, they both run on same code as windows Vista. just different revisions . windows 8 does not have better security due to fact it's newer and updates are still coming out to fix lot of issues and holes. as i can easily get my way into a windows 8 pc , over windows vista or 7 due to large amount of security updates theses os has had, and security is not os it self its firewall and 3rd party software the determine level of security , as most people forceful software or monopolized anything is shamed on by many people, this is what m$ does, they out of touch with consumer, reason why your so butt hurt is due to fact you have windows 8 on a desktop, FYI windows 7 will be getting DX 11.1 and 11.2 VIA updates and patch, different to 8 and 7 is 8 is less resource hungry due to lack of security, and suppose be light , its for tablets , unlike windows 7 were everything is there and no missing features that are required that 8 does not support.

Posted on 2013-10-19 04:51:49

There is nothing quite so entertaining as the certainty of an idiot.

Posted on 2013-12-05 05:38:26

chill the **** out egocentric moron.

Posted on 2013-12-29 23:17:56

Excuse me guest. Stronger? thats fucking hilarious. What about Vista? That was as bad as a bomb going off in a poop factory. thanks bye.

Posted on 2014-04-20 20:54:32
nigra truo

Hey, should we look for posts of you proclaiming Windows Vista as an amazing Windows OS and that Microsoft sold more of them than anything else before, EVEN THOUGH later it became clear that Vista has become a total stinker and sold really really bad and had/has a terrible reputation? Windows 8 is right up that alley. Just watch how many businesses, how many fortune 500 will migrate from 7 to 8 and you will see: hardly any, as there is no benefit. Only cost: go send thousands of workers into mandatory training just for them to be able to launch programs in 8, a thing they can do blind in 7.
Your opinions stand on very thin ice and are unsupported by the majority here. I would assume that you lack professional experience in information technology. Don't make yourself look ridiculous by pulling all these high claims.

Posted on 2014-04-25 10:09:10
Waltzin Matilda

Actually, you are economically delusional.


Waltzin Matilda

Posted on 2014-06-22 01:22:33
Asim Ali

Microsoft is not giving away Windows 10 for free.. since Windows 8 was so bad.
They got rid of their Phones.. Apple and Google phone are rockin !!
Oh.. Microsoft is getting rid of IE all together.. and coming out with a new browser since Chrome killed it.

Posted on 2015-04-16 17:49:08
Michael Pohoreski

/sarcasm Hey look Everyone! Ernie is offering to *pay* for everyone to upgrade to Windows 8 !! (And you in the back saying "Apple offers OSX for free now" be quiet!) And all those old devices that don't have Win8 drivers ... looks like he will need to pay to replace those as well !

oblg. http://images.cryhavok.org/...

Posted on 2014-01-15 17:38:52
nigra truo

You are funny! I tried Windows 8 and rejected it. Fact is that Windows 7 does EVERYTHING better than 8, with less RAM, less HD space taken up and no hassle with the missing start menu, some misguided UI changes that benefit only the few people that have a touch screen. In the end, you might not have realized this, but if you have as much information technology expertise and experience like it do: operating systems are only good for one thing: providing a stable platform for running programs, nothing more. Everything else is just overhead and wasted time.
So if I need more time to run a program in Windows 8 or to be able to boot of a CD (UEFI / secure boot is a royal pain in the butt for that), Windows 7 will will hands down for getting the job done faster.

Posted on 2014-04-25 10:04:24
Waltzin Matilda

Do you have ANY idea what it costs a medium-large business to upgrade?

And, it's not the $100 cost per PC.

I didn't think so...

But, then, it's not your money you are spending.

Sounds just like our government.


Waltzin Matilda

Posted on 2014-06-22 01:20:39

You are an idiot. Fuck Internet explorer and fuck your Microsoft Agenda. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Posted on 2015-01-06 15:22:53

I agree with Ernie. There's already a ton of old info on old tech that OS'es will expire in 2015~ How about we look at the future and talk about upcoming tech .Cause soon it will be 2014 and new tech from directX or whatever will only be on windows 8. Let's be current(future) as a while as relevant (present)

Posted on 2013-09-07 02:49:24
Asim Ali

Cowardly posted as a guest.

Posted on 2015-04-16 17:49:44
Bob Forsberg

Intel's Thunderbolt 2 will be the connection of choice for 4K, similar to the 4K TV/video projector being released Q2 2014 by Apple.

Posted on 2013-08-20 19:42:22
Kevin Crosby

Great Article. I was Googling around with questions about 4k usage for photography monitors and came across this. Thanks for the research!

Posted on 2013-09-27 18:14:33

I was wondering that if we use crossfire or sli and then use the two HDMI ports of both the graphic cards in the dual HDMI scenario will it possibly work then

Posted on 2013-10-30 09:55:00

I remember trying that, and remember that it didn't work, but I can't 100% remember why. I believe it was because in order to setup an eyefinity display (or for NVIDIA to automatically create a tiled display) you have to be outputting from a single card.

Posted on 2013-10-30 19:48:37

Nice article, thank you.

I would very much have liked to see a FirePro graphics card in the mix there, as this monitor is one of the few true 10bit displays out there, and AMD restrict their 10bit support to FirePro range only. Most of the graphics pros/ photo people I know work hi high-bit (usually on NEC monitors) but would love more real estate, like this has. Plus for them, this price is not such a huge deal.

I tried this monitor out with my FirePro card, (W5000) and could not get MST to function right, (despite reading every set up blog out there, and working with Asus support for 3 days) and was forced to work at 30Hz if I wanted a full desktop, yes via Display Port 1.2. I had to send it back in the end. The black levels on this are higher than you would hope for, but otherwise its a very nice monitor once profiled. I hope the single channel 4K processing chips arrive soon, and this panel, or similar ones, can run directly through DP1.2, without the hacks of running 2 screens seamed together, however clever that may be.

Posted on 2014-01-14 19:13:43
Con Sorts

with so many PiP 4k's coming out, and so many PC's still without 4K 60Hz capable GPU, it's amazing nobody has come out with a DVI:HDMI or D-DVI:HDMI 4K 60Hz capable adapter yet. I have two 7950 stuck at 1600p 60Hz or 4K 30Hz, but would gladly side by side PiP connect my GPU to this screen, if only both PiP halves were running at the same 60Hz speed.

Posted on 2014-12-11 15:22:41

well on win os, vista, you do need to keep in mind that most all user's were using duo core's or less and 1 gig memory if that !, my vista 64 setup has 16gig's, 8350 8core, 4gig ramdisk (dedicated for paging files and ready boost) leaving 12 gb for everything else, also noted was the ramdisk took all the load off the SSD drives, and is nearly 400x faster, so even with small paging files on ssd it really hardly hits it, Vista Rocks, Win 7 is vista's sp3, lol to funny all new OS's are vista based code !!!

Posted on 2014-12-22 22:25:12

So how about the cheapest 4K Ready card? You propose HD7750 and it is working. But is HD7770 with 2GB Vram to be sufficient? I found that 2GB Vram in HD7770 it is the same as 1GB.

Posted on 2014-12-27 07:16:27

This article is a bit old now, so the cards tested are a generation back from what is available now. If you are getting a new card today, I would think a GeForce GTX 750 / 750 Ti or a Radeon R7 series card would be a good place to start.

Posted on 2014-12-27 22:17:48
Leonidas Savvides

EVGA GeForce GTX 650 Ti SSC 2GB // I have this

nvidia says in web site support 4K but evga says in web site No.. how find what supports...?

Posted on 2017-01-25 21:08:23
Frank Langham

This article is more than just "dated", at this point. … It is, in fact, entirely obsolete and even misleading. .. I wasted a chunk of time finding this out and, before I am done, I will have to delete it (I had saved it) from my research folder. … Sigh.

Posted on 2020-02-01 10:04:59

We try to always flag content that is old or possibly out of date with a big red box at the top of the post saying:

"Always look at the date when you read a hardware article. Some of the content in this article is most likely out of date, as it was written on August 6, 2013. For newer information, see our more recent articles."

I don't know of anyone else who flags their content in this manner, but we try to make it very clear when content is up to date or possibly outdated.

Posted on 2020-02-01 14:52:12
Frank Langham

Did not mean to come off as harsh or unappreciative of your fine work. … Late night. … The current trend (and my current goal) is to properly adapt a 4K HDTV to perform personal video editing projects (and as a DAW). … What I have learned, thus far, is to select PC MODE or GAME MODE from the TV MODES MENU and to purchase a display that is (at least) TWICE the diagonal measure as whatever 1080 display size that you find most comfortable and useful. … So … If I prefer a 24" diagonal 1080 screen, then, I should look for a monitor that has PC/GAME mode and which is, AT LEAST 48" diagonal. … This will provide the same pixel density (Pix/inch) as my favorite size of 1080 monitor. … For me, 53" is the most I would want but a 28" 1080 screen would translate to a 56" 4K HDTV, as far as the text resolution and clarity. …
The OTHER big part of the puzzle is to use the more recent revisions of HDMI and Display Port connections, and to avoid trying to combine 2 HDMI connections on the same computer (still not sure exactly why this is).
… Thanks for your good work. … Yeah … The date was right on top of the article. .. It was past my bed time so .. Carry on and prosper.

Posted on 2020-02-01 17:43:54