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William George (Product Development)

AMD - Where have all the processors gone?

Written on December 17, 2015 by William George

Over the ten years I have worked here at Puget Systems a lot has changed. We are a much bigger company than we were then, and our build process and quality control are far better than when I was production manager. Another thing that has changed is the components and brands that we carry. This may be most noticeable in what has happened with AMD processors over those years.

Back in 2005, when I joined the team here at Puget, it was the heyday of AMD. For a couple of years they had been in a position of technological dominance. Intel was still the bigger company and sold more processors, but you could get an AMD chip that was both faster and less expensive than what Intel offered. In the mobile space Intel was still king, but on desktops and even servers there were lots of good reasons to use AMD... and few, if any, not to. I've put together a graph showing our CPU sales breakdown between AMD and Intel from 2003 to 2015, showing the % of our CPU sales that went to each of those manufacturers:

As you can see, AMD was steadily on the rise in our product line - and in 2006 managed to surpass Intel in sales volume. That was followed by a stark drop in 2007, though, and then a continual decline over the following years.

So what happened in 2006 / 2007 that changed AMD's fortunes? Intel released the Core 2 processor platform. After years of trailing AMD in raw performance, Intel finally put out a new line of processors - breaking from their long-used Pentium branding - which beat AMD in application speeds. For a couple years AMD held onto a price / performance lead, making them a decent choice for those on a more limited budget, and in some comparisons that still can hold true today... but with our focus on high performance systems AMD kept losing interest among our customers as the years went by.

Additionally, CPU cost is just one aspect of a full computer purchase. AMD processors, and motherboards for them as well, are generally less expensive... but if all the other parts in the system are the same price, is it really worth saving a couple hundred dollars if you lose out on a substantial amount of performance in the process? To me, if the percentage loss in performance exceeds the percentage reduction in price, then it isn't worth it. 

For that reason, my last few computers have been Intel based - though I used to really like AMD, and was proud of selecting them over Intel for several computers I built from about 2001 to 2010. It is also the reason that we have seen a declining interest in AMD desktop processors here at Puget Systems, which finally resulted in us dropping them from our product line earlier this year. We still offer AMD's Opteron server processors, though they too are showing their age compared to Intel's offerings. It just doesn't make good business sense for us to carry and maintain a product line that so few of our customers purchased.

Now if AMD comes out with a new generation of processors that turn the tide again, as they did in the early 2000s, things could change. I hope for their sake, and for that of competition (which is always good for end-users), that they do. Only time will tell, though.

Tags: AMD, CPU, processor

I would like to see AMD put some pressure on Intel, but I'll be surprised if that happens again to any degree. Today, Intel can sit back and roll out new chips with 10-15% performance gains and watch the money roll in. Intel deserves the spoils, but I hope some competition will arise because, you mention, we all benefit where companies battle it out in the market. ARM chips are providing Intel with plenty of competition and maybe that will continue and broaden.

Posted on 2015-12-19 01:48:17
Ívar Arason

The top AMD CPU FX 9590 has Passmark benchmark for single thread performance of 1720 where as Intel 4790K is scoring 2530 I would assume the fact the Intel has dozens of CPUs having single thread performance way above the top AMD CPU and single threading performance is weighing much for many design software.

Posted on 2015-12-23 17:12:15
michael joseph

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Posted on 2016-01-09 06:29:38
Adam Osteen

I own both and from a gaming / entertainment point of view they are all but identical. if anything is killing AMD it is synthetic benchmarks and the mindset that a small % in a synthetic productivity benchmark is going to somehow benefit the average user. Years of johnny reviewer saying things like "I can compress these photos 16% faster on this cpu rather than this one" has rotted the collective mindset of the general public.If AMD started selling their processors under a different name tomorrow without anyone knowing it was them they would be touted as the next big thing.. and celebrated for their price to productivity point. unfortunately for them it will be tough to shake off the stigma the synthetic benchmark has unfairly saddled them with.

Posted on 2016-01-20 17:05:03

I try not to look much at synthetic benchmarks, but even in real-world stuff (game tests, application-specific productivity tests, etc) AMD lags behind. Now for folks who don't need high-end performance, and for whom the lower price might actually be more important, that may be just fine! But the folks that purchase systems from us tend to be after the best performance possible, and while AMD used to be able to match or even beat Intel's performance (several years ago) they just don't have any products that high on the performance scale these days.

Posted on 2016-01-20 17:38:57
Adam Osteen

Fair enough. I'll put my soapbox away, and for the sake of full disclosure, I'll admit that my main gaming machine has a 4790k equipped in it. And while I did not get it from you fine folks at Puget systems I cannot complain about it's performance. But I will add that the AMD based gaming system that I currently have doubling as an HTPC in my living room, and even the one in my bedroom, all perform virtually identical in games and as a media center. And I would go one step further and suggest that without a label on the side or prior knowledge to fall back on that the average user would not be able to distinguish between the two. Would love to see that tested with an oldschool Coke vs.Pepsi style blind test With all the hardware being identical other than the CPU and no label (Pepsi is nasty btw)

Posted on 2016-01-20 19:49:17
Parminder Singh

This is Parminder Singh from India.

Do you guys like update this for current situation as AMD is doing better and am confused for system while upgrading my decade old PC I7 2600k now (am working as media editor as well network administrator) as everyone know intel is intel if we look into past but for now with AMD Ryzen series time is changed or can say tough time for intel... So what is teams current opinion on this one.


Please ignore, any english mistake...

Posted on 2019-10-16 18:12:03

We added AMD processors back to our product line about a year ago, when we found that their Threadripper chips were ideal for certain specific use cases. More recently we have added the new 3rd-gen Ryzen processors as well, and in some situations they far outperform Intel for a similar price. Lightroom Classic, for example: https://www.pugetsystems.co...

I think this renewed level of competition between Intel and AMD will be good for everyone, since it spurs on innovation and should result in better performance at lower prices for computer users :)

Posted on 2019-10-16 18:16:52