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Adobe Premiere Pro - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070, 3080 & 3090 Performance

Written on October 29, 2020 by Matt Bach
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TL;DR: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070, 3080 & 3090 performance in Premiere Pro

While the average editor likely won't notice much of a difference with the new NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070, 3080 or 3090 video cards, in certain situations they can provide a healthy boost to performance. In an ideal situation where you are using multiple GPU-accelerated effects, the RTX 3000-series cards are anywhere from 10% to 20% faster than the similarly-priced models from the previous generation. This is enough to make both the RTX 3080 and 3090 easily the fastest GPUs we have tested for Premiere Pro regardless of price.

These new GPUs are also significantly faster than AMD's current offerings, with the RTX 3070 and 3080 beating the AMD Radeon RX 5700XT and Vega 64 by around 50% and 75% respectively. The RTX 3090, while certainly more expensive than the AMD Radeon cards, is even more impressive with almost 2x higher performance in our GPU Stress project.

Excerpt from "Labs Open Office Hour: Labs Lads Discuss the New RTX 3070" live stream on 10/30/2020

Introduction

On September 1st, NVIDIA launched the new GeForce RTX 30 Series, touting major advancements in performance and efficiency. While gaming is almost always a major focus during these launches, professional applications like Premiere Pro should also see some significant improvements as well. Adobe has been adding more and more GPU-accelerated effects and features over the last few years, which has made the GPU an increasingly important component in editing workstations.

Premiere Pro GPU Performance Benchmark - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB, 3080 10GB & RTX 3090 24GB

If you want to see the full specs for the new GeForce RTX 3070, 3080, and 3090 cards, we recommend checking out NVIDIA's page for the new 30 series cards. But at a glance, here are what we consider to be the most important specs:

VRAM CUDA Cores Boost Clock Power MSRP
RTX 2070 SUPER 8GB 2,560 1.77 GHz 215W $499
RTX 3070 8GB 5,888 1.70 GHz 220W $499
RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB 3,072 1.65 GHz 250W $699
RTX 3080 10GB 8,704 1.71 GHz 320W $699
RTX 2080 Ti 11GB 4,352 1.55 GHz 250W $1,199
RTX 3090 24GB 10,496 1.73 GHz 350W $1,499
Titan RTX 24GB 4,608 1.77 GHz 280W $2,499

While specs rarely line up with real-world performance, it is a great sign that NVIDIA has doubled the number of CUDA cores compared to the comparable RTX 20 series cards with only a small drop in the boost clock. At the same time, the RTX 3080 and 3090 are also $500-1000 less expensive than the previous generation depending on which models you are comparing them to.

While it is a bit odd that the RTX 3080 has less VRAM than the 2080 Ti, all three of these new cards should all be capable of working with 4K timelines in Premiere Pro. The RTX 3080 and 3090 (with 10GB and 24GB of VRAM respectively) should also have no trouble with 8K timelines. However, keep in mind that the actual performance in those kinds of workflows is going to heavily depend on the power of your CPU as well.

With the launch of the RTX 3070, we can update our previous Adobe Premiere Pro - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 & 3090 Performance article with results for the 3070.

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Test Setup

Listed below is the specifications of the system we will be using for our testing:

To test each GPU, we will be using the fastest platform currently available for Premiere Pro - most notably the AMD Threadripper 3970X. Since Premiere Pro utilizes the CPU so heavily, this should minimize the impact of the processor and allow each GPU to perform at their fullest potential.

One thing we need to specifically point out is that while we are using the latest 14.5 version of Premiere Pro which added GPU-based H.264/HEVC decoding, we actually saw significantly lower performance in our tests with this feature enabled. We have done some investigating and it appears to be largely limited to our multicam tests with the 150mbps 59.94FPS media.

Tasks like scrubbing, reverse playback, etc. are all still significantly better with the GPU decoding enabled which we showed recently in our Premiere Pro GPU Decoding for H.264/HEVC media - is it faster? article. In addition, multicam performance is better with the 23.976FPS H.264/HEVC media we've tested, so this appears to be an issue only with higher framerate footage. We are still investigating the cause of this lower performance, but for now we decided to disable GPU decoding for this round of testing.

For the testing itself, we will be using the "Standard" preset of our PugetBench for Premiere Pro benchmark. This tests a number of different codec types (H.264, ProRes 422, and RED RAW), but also includes a dedicated "Heavy GPU Effects" test that is meant to put as much load on the GPU as possible while still staying within the realm of what someone might actually do in the real world.

If you wish to run our benchmark yourself, you can download the benchmark and compare your results to thousands of user-submitted results in our PugetBench database.

Raw Benchmark Results

While we are going to go through our analysis of the testing in the next section, we always like to provide the raw results for those that want to dig into the details. If there is a specific codec or export setting you tend to use in your workflow, examining the raw results for that task is going to be much more applicable than our more general analysis.

Overall Premiere Pro Performance Analysis

In applications like Premiere Pro where the GPU is secondary to the CPU, many reviewers like to focus on extreme situations that heavily load the GPU. However, we first want to start off by looking at the overall performance we saw from our Premiere Pro benchmark with each GPU in order to show what most users would likely experience in their day-to-day work.

Looking at the Overall Standard Score, the new RTX 3090 tops the charts, but it is only about 3% faster than the RTX 3080, which is in turn only about 4% faster than the RTX 3070.

Compared to the previous generation cards of a similar price point, this works out to about a 3% performance gain with the new RTX 3000-series cards. This probably isn't enough to get you all that excited, but if you are still using an old GTX 1080 Ti, the performance gain is closer to 20-30% which should result in noticeably better performance for most users.

Keep in mind that the scores shown in the charts above include quite a few tests that are heavily CPU limited. Playing or exporting ProRes footage does not utilize the GPU, and neither does our dedicated CPU Effects test. This is still a fairly good indication of what the average Premiere Pro user may experience overall, but we can dive into specific situations where a more powerful GPU should net you more significant performance gains.

Exporting to H.264 Analysis

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB, 3080 10GB & RTX 3090 24GB Premiere Pro GPU Encoding performance benchmark

The chart above is not an official part of our Premiere Pro benchmark at the moment but is a calculated score from the H.264 export tests. As we showed in our recent Premiere Pro 14.2 H.264/H.265 Hardware Encoding Performance article, the amount of speedup you can see by utilizing the recently added hardware encoding feature varies greatly depending on your source media and export settings. In this case, we are exporting 4K media to UHD H.264 40mbps, which, coincidentally, is where we saw the largest performance gains.

Here, the performance advantage of the new RTX 3000-series cards is a bit larger, with both the RTX 3080 and 3090 beating the RTX 2080 SUPER by 12%, the RTX 2080 Ti by 6%, and even edging out over the dual RTX 2080 Ti configuration by a small 3%. The RTX 3070 is a bit less impressive, but still beats the RTX 2070 Super by roughly 7%.

The 3000-series cards are all certainly much faster than the AMD Radeon GPUs that are currently available, or the older GTX 1080 Ti, but this is a feature that has a fairly dramatic soft cap to GPU performance so there is less to gain as you go up in raw GPU performance.

Heavy GPU Effects Analysis

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB, 3080 10GB & RTX 3090 24GB Premiere Pro GPU Effects benchmark performance

Our heavy GPU effects test looks at live playback and export performance with sequences that have a large number of GPU-accelerated effects including Lumetri Color, Ultra Key, Sharpen, Gaussian Blur, Basic 3D, Directional Blur, VR Digital Glitch, and VR De-Noise. Because it is designed to maximize the load on the GPU and minimize the load on the rest of the system, this should be close to the maximum possible performance difference you will ever experience between different GPUs in Premiere Pro.

Here, the RTX 3070 edges ahead of the previous generation RTX 2070 SUPER by a respectable 10%. The RTX 3080, however, beats the RTX 2080 SUPER by a solid 20%, the RTX 2080 Ti by 10%, and even the dual RTX 2080 Ti configuration by 5%. The RTX 3090 was even faster, out-performing the new RTX 3080 by 10%, the RTX 2080 Ti by 21%, and the dual RTX 2080 Ti by 15%

Compared to the more modest GPUs we tested, the performance gains can be very significant. The RTX 3070, 3080 and 3090 were more than 20%, 40% and 60% faster than the RTX 2060 SUPER respectively, and the RTX 3090, in particular, was close to twice the performance of the AMD Radeon RX 5700XT and Vega 64.

Compared to the older GTX 1080 Ti, the results get a bit... odd. This is one of the first times we have run this exact test on the GTX 1080 Ti, and we were surprised to see how poorly that specific card performed. We verified this result with multiple cards, drivers, etc., but it is likely that one of the effects we are using simply does not run very well on the older GTX series cards. Because this is likely an artifact caused by a single effect, you probably won't actually see a nearly 5x increase in performance going from a GTX 1080 Ti to an RTX 3080 or 3090 unless you happen to be using one of these "problem" effects. But if you use a large number of GPU-based effects, at least a 2x increase in performance is not an unreasonable expectation.

How well does the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070, 3080 & 3090 perform in Premiere Pro?

While the average editor likely won't notice much of a difference with the new NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070, 3080 or 3090 video cards, in certain situations they can provide a healthy boost to performance. In an ideal situation where you are using multiple GPU-accelerated effects, the RTX 3000-series cards are anywhere from 10% to 20% faster than the similarly-priced models from the previous generation. This is enough to make both the RTX 3080 and 3090 easily the fastest GPUs we have tested for Premiere Pro regardless of price.

These new GPUs are also significantly faster than AMD's current offerings, with the RTX 3070 and 3080 beating the AMD Radeon RX 5700XT and Vega 64 by around 50% and 75% respectively. The RTX 3090, while certainly more expensive than the AMD Radeon cards, is even more impressive with almost 2x higher performance in our GPU Stress project.

Overall, this makes the new RTX 3000-series cards an excellent choice for a Premiere Pro workstation. The RTX 3070 is a bit less impressive in terms of raw performance, but considering it performs between an RTX 2080 SUPER and an RTX 2080 Ti (both of which are more expensive), it is a solid choice for those on a budget.

If you use a number of GPU accelerated effects, want the fastest H.264 exports, or just want the best GPU overall, the RTX 3080 and 3090 are both terrific - easily beating all the GPUs from the previous generation. The RTX 3080 will likely end up being the more popular option given it's $699 price point, but the higher performance and 24GB of VRAM can make the RTX 3090 a solid investment if you want to work with 8K media.

As always, keep in mind that these results are strictly for Premiere Pro. If you have performance concerns for other applications in your workflow, we highly recommend checking out our Hardware Articles (you can filter by "Video Card") for the latest information on how a range of applications perform with the new RTX 3070, 3080 and 3090 GPUs, as well as with different CPUs and other hardware.

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Tags: Hardware Acceleration, hardware encoding, NVIDIA, NVIDIA vs AMD, AMD, Vega 64, Radeon RX 5700 XT, RTX 2060 SUPER, RTX 2070 SUPER, RTX 2080 SUPER, RTX 2080 Ti, Titan RTX, RTX 3080, RTX 3090, RTX 3070
Robert A. Cuadra

Great write up! I do have a question - can the new RTX 3000 cards output 10-bit to monitors like the RTX Quadros for color grading? Or are they still locked to 8-bt output?

Posted on 2020-10-29 21:45:22

Yep, they support 10-bit output now! That was added back in July 2019: https://www.nvidia.com/en-u...

Of course, if you need color accuracy, you really should use something like a Blackmagic Decklink since they are specifically designed to deliver unaltered video signals to your display, resulting in the best possible video and color quality. Anything going through the GPU can be affected by the drivers, Windows, etc. which can alter the colors. If you aren't using a calibrated display it isn't a big deal, but if you are taking the time and effort to calibrate your display, you want to make sure the colors being sent to it are actually accurate.

Posted on 2020-10-29 21:57:53
Robert A. Cuadra

Thank you for you're response! I do have a a decklink, for certain. Currently, I have a Quadro RTX 4000, but I've been eyeing the RTX 3070. Would it be a significant bump from my Quadro? I use Premiere, resolve, After effect, Photoshop. i9900k, Z390 (Accelerated graphics, exports and such) Mobo, 64GB, NVME C drive, 3 others that are SSD's, Veiwsonic VP3881 monitor

Thank you!

Posted on 2020-10-30 18:28:14

I believe the Quadro RTX 4000 is somewhere around a RTX 2060S or 2070S in terms of performance. So at most, a RTX 3070 would be about 12% faster in Premiere Pro. Probably not enough to notice unless you really want to load up on GPU effects.

Resolve would be closer to ~25% if using OpenFX or noise reduction though.

Posted on 2020-10-30 18:59:09
Jem Lang

This is a fantastic article. Thank you! All the other news and reviews focus on gaming.
I’ve decided that after being on Mac for 15 years it’s time to build a PC specifically for video/photo editing and a bit of casual gaming.
However I’m torn at the moment between which card to get. The 3070 is about $400AUD more than the 2070 Super at the moment and for that price difference I’m not sure if it would be worth it?

Posted on 2020-10-31 04:06:00

That is some crazy price gouging if the RTX 3070 is $400AUD more than a 2070 SUPER! It probably isn't worth it for that price difference, but if you can, you might want to hold out for at least a few more weeks. Supply should get better, which hopefully will help with the pricing. AMD is also releasing some new GPUs mid-November, which also might help with some of the demand.

Posted on 2020-11-01 17:54:29
Jem Lang

It's crazy! Prices start from $1000 and all sold out. Plus Australia didn't really get any FE stock. We really get ripped off here.
Just can't justify that price difference when the main use will be premiere pro.

Posted on 2020-11-02 06:49:26

Launches are always crazy for supply. If you can, just wait it out a bit and it should get better. AMD is launching a couple new cards next week, which hopefully will take some of the demand away from the RTX 3000 series, freeing up some supply and helping with the price gouging.

Posted on 2020-11-09 17:35:08
BobWhitmore

I'm really torn between the 10gb DDR6x 3080 and the 16gb DDR6 6800xt (or possibly 6900xt). I know those haven't been publicly tested yet, but would I be right in interpreting this to mean that more VRAM isn't making a massive difference, with the 3090 (24gb) only slightly ahead of the 3080 (10gb)?

Posted on 2020-11-08 23:31:27

VRAM is kind of like storage - as long as you have enough space, everything is good. But if you run out, you start getting all kinds of problems. In Premiere Pro, with 10GB of VRAM you should have no problems working with even 8K media, so unless you also want to run Resolve at the same time (which will need it's own share of VRAM) or like to have a TON of Chrome tabs open, the 16GB of VRAM on the 6800XT shouldn't be much of a benefit.

Considering that the 6800XT will have to be almost 2x faster than the 5700XT in order to compete with the RTX 3080 in terms of performance, I am doubtful that AMD is going to come out on top in apps like Premiere Pro. I really, really hope they at least get close enough to worry NVIDIA (and thus cause price drops, etc.), but we will have to wait until they launch next week. And until we can get a card in to benchmark it.

Posted on 2020-11-09 17:32:17
BobWhitmore

Thanks Matt, Been looking for information on this for a long time!
Given the wait times, I doubt my 3080 will be in the mail before the 6800xt tests are released so I'm sure I'll have plenty of time to cancel that order if AMD pull off a miracle.

Posted on 2020-11-13 04:43:26