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Revit 2017.2 Quadro GPU Comparison

Written on June 7, 2017 by William George
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Introduction

A lot of our customers use software from Autodesk for various engineering disciplines, but aside from some basic specs and supported video card lists there is not much information available on what hardware actually performs best in these applications.

In this article we are going to look at several NVIDIA Quadro GPU (video card) options that you might consider in an engineering workstation to see exactly how they compare in Revit 2017.2. We will also include Intel's HD630 graphics, built into some of their Core series processors, to get a baseline for integrated GPU performance.

If you are interested in how well different hardware works with Autodesk Revit, don't miss our article on CPU performance.

Test Setup

To see how each of the Quadro cards perform in Revit, we used the following workstation hardware and software:

Testing Hardware
Motherboard: Asus PRIME Z270-A
CPU: Intel Core i7 7700K 4.2GHz (4.5GHz Max Turbo) 4 Core
RAM: 4x Crucial DDR4-2400 16GB (64GB total)
Hard Drive: Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SATA 6Gb/s SSD
OS: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
Software: Autodesk Revit 2017.2

This hardware is based on what we found to perform best in most aspects of Revit, and similar to our recommended Revit workstation for modeling and design. The Quadro cards we are testing are the latest Pascal based models, and the P2000 through P6000 are officially certified by Autodesk for Revit 2017. The P1000 was also included to look at performance at a lower price point, still within the Quadro line, and Intel's HD 630 graphics were tested as well. That should provide a good baseline, as it is built into the Core i7 7700K processor itself. Here is a chart of these GPUs, with links to more details on the various Quadro models:

We performed our testing using the terrific RFO Benchmark. As of the time of testing, this benchmark only supported Revit 2015 - 2017, which is why the testing was done on the latest version of 2017 rather than the recently-released 2018. When the benchmark is updated we plan to do additional testing and publish another article to see if anything has changed.

Within the RFO Benchmark, the results are broken down into a few categories:

  • Update (converting a file from a previous version to the 2017 format)
  • Model Creation (consisting of several steps involved in creating a new model)
  • Export (converting or printing the resulting model views to various formats)
  • Render
  • Graphics (refreshing and rotating views)

We used the Standard version of the benchmark, which performs three runs of the tests and then averages the results. The maker of the RFO Benchmark recommends the Extended test for video card comparisons, but we consistently ran into a journal error when attempting to run that version. After discussing this with the benchmark creator on the Revit Forum, we decided to go ahead and publish the Standard results for now. When we revisit Revit 2018, with the updated version of RFO Benchmark, hopefully the issues will be resolved and we can perform the Extended testing for an even better look at these GPUs.

Benchmark Results

The RFO Benchmark breaks down results into several categories. Since we are testing video cards, we will first focus on the Graphics portion of the test. Results are presented compared to the top-end Quadro P6000:

Revit 2017.2 RFO Benchmark Graphics

When refreshing views, all of the Quadro cards performed the same (within margin of error). Intel's HD 630 graphics fell behind here, though that could be due to additional overhead that the Core i7 processor has to deal with when using its built-in graphics. That increases heat within the CPU and shares a portion of the system's RAM and memory bandwidth, so in addition to being a slower graphics solution it could also be causing the CPU itself to perform more poorly.

The Rotate View test showed a little more variation between the Quadro cards, though, while also returning the Intel graphics lowest performance. The difference between the Quadro models is not huge, but the P1000 and P2000 dip around 15% below the P6000. If you are working with particularly complex structures, it would be a good idea to err on the side of caution and get one of the more powerful Quadro models.

In the interest of completeness, we also looked at the overall scores from the RFO Benchmark in other areas besides just graphics:

Revit 2017.2 RFO Benchmark GPU Overview

The various Quadro models all performed very similarly in model creation and exporting, which makes sense since those are primarily CPU bound. The Intel graphics chip did score lower there, likely because of the impact that using it has on the processor itself (as mentioned above). Updating also saw some difference across the tested GPUs, but given how short and infrequent of a process it is this result is probably not a big deal.

What is more interesting, though, is the impact of the video card selection on rendering performance. The lower-end Quadro models, P1000 and P2000, fall more than 10% behind the P6000 in this area. Some rendering engines are starting to focus on the GPU for ray-tracing calculations, but if that was the case here we would see even more disparity between the various models. We don't have a good explanation for these results, but it is clear that if rendering is a big part of your workload you should aim for a Quadro P4000 or higher to ensure that the video card does not hold back your render speeds.

Conclusion

The above graphs are pretty clear: for most of Revit, any of the Quadro card will do just fine. We do generally recommend sticking with the models which are officially supported by Autodesk, so for general modeling the Quadro P2000 is a great option - while for more advanced models or if you do a lot of rendering the P4000 is a stronger choice without costing a ton more. Going above that has minimal benefit within Revit, especially considering the cost of higher-end Quadro cards.

Because of the general split between rendering and modeling behavior, there is not single system that will be the best for all Revit use cases. That is why we have created two recommended workstations for Revit: one for general modeling & design and one with an emphasis on rendering performance. Both offer the full range of Quadro cards, though, as well as GeForce options for those who aren't concerned with official Autodesk support.

Autodesk Revit Workstations

Tags: Autodesk, Revit, GPU, Video, Card, Quadro
mzperx

Hi Puget Systems!
Could we have a comparsion with Quadro P1000/2000 and GTX 1060/1070 card?

Posted on 2017-06-25 17:10:56
Rafael Carrochi

I want to see too.

Posted on 2017-08-10 02:04:01

I feel that using a Quadro for Revit is a complete waste of money. Am I missing something or where are the actual time benchmarks for each card? At least for the high end Quadro P6000 so we can gauge the actual improvements such a card would provide? Looking at the standard Intel built in hd630, with an 80 odd percent penalty in performance, I would hazard a guess that the cheaper Radeon or GTX cards would give the Quadros a good run for the money. That's not saying that the Quadros would be redundant in other cad applications, but in Revit, even my Radeon HD7970 seems to make mince meat of the RFO benchmarks. Cheers.

Posted on 2017-09-30 01:02:43

We recommend using a Quadro card mostly because of Autodesk's policies. They only support a handful of graphics cards on most of their applications, and if you use something outside their list you may not be able to get full support from them (should you have a problem and need assistance). Their list of NVIDIA cards for Revit 2017 only has Quadro models on it:

http://usa.autodesk.com/ads...

However, the P6000 is certainly overkill for Revit! That was the point of the testing in this article: once you get to a P4000, there isn't much to gain from going higher. Even the P2000 (the lowest-end Quadro on Autodesk's list above) did quite well. And all of them far exceeded the onboard Intel graphics.

Posted on 2017-10-02 17:26:20
Amrit Banerjee

Well to be frank Autodesk's support in general is pretty Shitty. It is usually up to the IT guys and BIM Managers to resolve any issues. Autodesk would just tell you to update drivers or reinstall stuff.. Mostly unrelated stuff.
But at an enterprise level more than the money I am concerned about performance. I know for sure a GTX 1080 Ti would outperform any of the Quadros when running an application like Lumion. Where does it stand when compared to with Revit and Auto-CAD? Cause with Huge Rail and transport projects my guys are spending more and more time opening views and reloading stuff in revit with the K2000s and 4000s. And frankly speaking I just want a faster process at the end of the day. We all know Autodesk support.. Lets not kid ourselves......

Posted on 2017-11-03 06:10:38

I'm not sure that the video card will actually have much impact on the speed of opening views or reloading. As shown above, all of the current-gen Quadro cards (from the P2000 on up) do very well there, and while the GeForce line may be just as good I have no reason to think they will be any faster.

Now that is speaking only of modern cards, and if you are using K2000s those are two generations / four years old. Moving to newer cards, even if not high-end models, could be beneficial.

It is also possible that part of the reason that we don't see much difference between the GPUs we test in Revit is that we don't have access to complex enough models. If any readers out there have extremely large, graphically complex models that you can share with us for testing purposes that would be most appreciated :)

Posted on 2017-11-03 17:15:31